What's on your credit report, and is Rover worth your time

Juliet Chuang00:00:08

Today is Wednesday, September 16th.We are going to talk about a side hustle corner, which is boarding dogs on Rover.It sounds like the perfect side hustle.You like dogs, you're home anyway.But then we're gonna take a look at what that numbers really mean and what the platform cuts and then the tax that nobody withholds for you and see what's actually left in your hand.And then we're going to do a breakdown of a credit report.So if you haven't grabbed your credit report yet, please go and do that.We're going to go through every single thing, line by line.Everything that's personal, that's blacked out.And it's not going to be a lecture about it, but we're going to understand what a credit report is.Plus, we're going to have three headlines today.We're going to talk about CDs or certificate of deposits, a car payment that might be quietly lowering your tax bill, and a price on your screen that may not be the price anybody else is seeing and the one document almost nobody has ever actually read.Welcome to Becoming Financially Confident, where we are breaking free from money shame, one conversation at a time.We are live every Monday through Friday from 11:30am to 12:30pm Eastern.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:01:21

Yeah, I'm Ralph Estep Jr.I'm a licensed public accountant, and I'm diploma with 30 years of experience.

Juliet Chuang00:01:26

And I'm Juliette.I'm just a regular person asking all of the questions.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:01:30

Yeah, because you might have those questions, too, because Juliet and I are very different people.And we're going to talk about on this show things that affect our money and your money.Now, we have two house rules that we all have agreed to live by, and that's no shaming anybody about money.And nobody's ever going to be judged on this show for what they didn't know.Our goal every day is to inform you and to equip you so you can make better decisions with your money and actually get to a point of actually becoming financially confident.

Juliet Chuang00:01:59

If you have something you want us to talk on the show about, send it to us at Becoming financiallyconfident.Com.No, personal finance question is off limits.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:02:08

Yeah, we got some questions in the last few days, and we're doing a lot more of those this Friday.So wherever you are on your financial journey, I want you to know right here and right now, we've all been there.You're not alone on this journey.

Juliet Chuang00:02:19

And.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:02:19

And we're here to walk that journey with you every single day on the show.

Juliet Chuang00:02:27

Up first we are going to talk about CDs or certificate of deposits if you have one.When that CD matures, it rolls into a brand new full term automatically at whatever rate the bank is posting that day.And this is specifically what we're going to talk about.You actually have a grace period to change your mind.I don't want that CD.And at that bank, big banks, that window is 10 calendar days.Meanwhile, the national average savings account in this country is at 0.38%.So Ralph, first talk to us like what is this?0.3%, 3, 8%.And what am I comparing that to before we get into the CD of it all?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:03:02

Yeah.So here's what we're talking about.If you just leave your money parked in a standard savings account that every normal bank has, the average right now is paying 0.38%.So 1/3 of of a percent of interest.So that's why so many people are investing in CD certificates of deposit where you get a higher return.But we've talked about this on the show before.You're locking your money in for a certain period of time.Here's specifically what this headline is really talking about.At some point that CD matures.So let's use a simple example.Let's say you go out and you buy a thousand dollar CD.That's six months and they give you an interest rate of 4% when you purchase that CD.Most banks will give you a little toggle where you decide when this CD matures, what happens next.Basically, there's two defaults.Default number one is they deposit that money back into your traditional savings account.So if you're getting 4% and they do that, then you're going back to 0.38%.Not a great deal.

Juliet Chuang00:04:05

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:04:05

The other option is a lot of banks will allow you to renew that CD and in the same duration as what you have now.But here's the catch to that.You're going to renew it at whatever the interest rate is currently.So if you got that 4% interest rate and then six months later the interest rate dropped, you're going to renew at a lower interest rate.And the thing is, there's only 10 days to make this change or you can get hit with a penalty for taking that money back out.

Juliet Chuang00:04:37

And you're saying it's 10 days after it has renewed?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:04:40

Yes, 10 calendar days.Most banks will honor that.

Juliet Chuang00:04:44

Got it.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:04:45

Yeah.And this one actually bit me a little bit.I do some investing with CDs and I wasn't paying attention.I had bought a 12 month CD and it got into the middle of tax season when this thing renewed and I wasn't paying attention and the renewal rate was actually a quarter point less than what I had before.But if I had taken that 12 month CD and bought an 18 month CD, I could have actually got a better rate.So here's what I'm encouraging everybody to do tonight.Find your last bank statement and look for the maturity dates.If you don't have CDs, you can ignore this, but it's printed right on there.Put that date in your phone with a reminder set 14 days before and then call the bank before it matures and say exactly this.Here's what I want you to say.I want to know my maturity date and my grace period and I don't want this to auto renew.Okay, you don't have a CD at all.Do the 2 minute version instead and log into your savings account and find the actual yield that it's paying you right now.Because a lot of people have never looked at that number.And like I said, if it's only paying you 0.38%, we've talked on this show before.Maybe it's time to think about a high yield savings account.Maybe it's time to think about going into a cd.Those are all better decisions.And letting that money just sit there and have nothing trickling in.

Juliet Chuang00:06:02

Sounds good.If you bought a new car in the last year and a half and you're making payments on it, there is a deduction sitting there that did not exist before.This is important.The interest on the loan, up to $10,000 a year for tax years 2025 through 2028.And here's the part that matters to most people.You do not have to itemize to take it.But there are conditions, and one of them is strange.The car has to have had its final assembly in the United States.And the badge on the back of the car does not tell you that.Ralph, who actually gets this one?And who's going to think they do and be raw about it?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:06:40

Yeah, so this is an interesting one.And going through tax season last year, a lot of people were not aware of this.Here's basically what this means.If you went out and bought a new car in 2025, 2026, 2027 or 2028, and you got a loan for that car and it was final assembly in the United States, you have the ability to take a tax deduction for the interest that you paid on that vehicle in the current year.So first Thing comes to mind if you weren't aware of this and you bought a new vehicle in 2025 and you paid interest on it and it had its final assembly in the United States.And I'll talk in a minute about how to find that out.You may want to go back and amend your tax return because what that does is it reduces your taxable income.If you reduce your taxable income, you're going to reduce your tax, which is a very good thing.But remember, there's three conditions.It has to be a new car to you.You have to have secured the car by a loan and it has to have that American badge on it.Not, you know, it has to basically be made in America.So a lot of people miss this one.And you can still go back and amend your tax return and get some money back.So that's one thing you can do.So two things, week, and together they're going to take about 10 minutes.Number one, find your VIN number, your vehicle identification number.It's on the driver's side dashboard through the windshield.Yes, that little thing that looks like old school text.Or go to the sticker in the door jamb or your insurance card.Once you have that VIN number, you can go through the NHTSA VIN decoder.That's a free government site and it's where the specific car had its final assembly, because that's the first thing you need to know.Was this car assembled in the United States?If you've got a car that wasn't, unfortunately this doesn't work for you.Second step.So once you clear that hurdle, and yes, I bought the new car in 2025 or 2026.Now, second hurdle.Then you log into your auto lender's website and find the interest that you paid this year.Not the total amount of payments, just the interest only.I will tell you like, I have a Toyota truck.And I was shocked.The Toyota truck, I did.Well, I did.I actually traded in a couple months ago.It was assembled in the United States.So even though it is a, quote, foreign car, it was assembled in the United States.So I qualified for this.And this lender, Toyota Finance, actually was really proactive and they actually sent me an email that said, here is your interest statement for last year.But not all lenders did that.Not all lenders are as big as Toyota.It could be a local bank or something like that.So go figure out what this is.And, and if you didn't take this deduction, reach out, get an amended tax return.If you want to contact me Directly, we do tax returns for people all over the United States, but this is a big deal because it could be up to $10,000 a year per tax return.Now, I'm going to tell you, there's some fine print here.There are some phase outs based on income.If you're single, basically, if you make more than $100,000, you don't qualify.If you're filing with somebody else, it's $200,000.The loan has to originate in these tax years and all of those type of things.Like the big thing here, though, final assembly in the United States, by using that decoder, like, you got to get your decoder ring out and say, was this car actually designed?But this is something that a lot of people miss.And if you paid this, why not get the benefit of the tax deduction?

Juliet Chuang00:10:09

Yeah, this is good to know.And I think, Ralph, you did such a great job of saying these are the biggest, most important qualifications.And then, you know, if you have further questions, definitely reach out.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:10:20

Absolutely.

Juliet Chuang00:10:24

The next one sounds like a conspiracy theory until you see who is saying it.The FTC has a proposed enforcement policy out right now on what it calls personalized pricing.A company can be using your personal data to set a price based on what it thinks you spend specifically are willing to spend.And the FTC's position is that if a business implies a price is the same for everybody when it actually varies by individual, that can be deceptive.Ralph, if the number on my screen isn't the number on somebody else's screen, what am I supposed to do with that?I'm already not happy about this because I've heard about about this before.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:11:00

Yeah, this one I mentioned to Julia before we did the show today, she's like, oh, I don't like that one.

Juliet Chuang00:11:05

Yeah, and I get to happen, too.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:11:07

No, I get it.Yeah.And this thing is the price.It's not the price.It's not knowing about this.And see, this all comes down to your device, it comes down to your location, it comes down to your history, how many times you've looked at a particular thing.So it's really a way for these data aggregators.I know that's a big word.There are a whole bunch of people out there now that are aggregating data.They're looking at what you look at on YouTube, they're looking at where you go on the Internet.They're looking at what stores you shop in.And they're actually building pricing profiles and customer avatars based on that.And basically, we used to Call it sizing up people.That's effectively what they're doing, is they're sizing you up to see the maximum return they can get.Now, as a business person, that says to me, great, they're doing their homework.They're paying attention to details they're looking at because this can work both ways.They also can present you with discounts as well because maybe you're that person that keeps on looking at the same thing, but you're not pulling the trigger.Then all of a sudden they say, well, Juliet's been to this website, let's give her a 5% discount.So this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but is definitely from the Federal Trade Commission.It's a thing of not being fair across the board.Now Juliet just gave me the.The Juliet Ralph, I think.Yeah, the Juliet face.

Juliet Chuang00:12:25

I disagree.I disagree because I think a lot.This is such an easy way for a lot of these companies to just like pick on you.And also, by the way, if a comp.My perspective is if a company is willing to collect all of this data and give you personalized pricing, I don't think those companies are going to be gracious enough to give you a discount that truly matters.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:12:47

That could be.So here's what I'm going to encourage everybody to do.Before your next order over $100, I want you to run a 60 second version.I want you to price it the way you normally would.So go into the normal website and price it out.Then what I want you to do is play a little game with them.I want you to open up a private or incognito window and price the exact same thing again.And if you can, check and make sure it's on a different device.What am I talking about there?So with most of the web browsers, you can go in there and kind of spoof who you are.In Google, I know there's open incognito window, which that basically means is.I. I'm not sure it's 100% true, but it is supposed to not load in all the things that it knows about you.This is a great way to see if what is happening in that particular purchase is happening to you.If you can do it in another geographic region.Like this is something that Juliet and I might try because Juliet is California, I'm Delaware.I know this actually is a thing.And I'll tell you how I know this.My oldest son just moved to New York and he bought his washer and dryer for his apartment while he was in Texas.

Juliet Chuang00:13:54

Okay.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:13:55

So he went to the same Home Depot in New York because he needed a hose for it.Guess what, Julia?That same washer and dryer in New York was $300 more.

Juliet Chuang00:14:06

Whoa.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:14:07

In New York versus Texas.Now, some of that, again, that's not exactly what we're talking about here, but if you do this online, you can see that there are some differences.So this is going to be.It's on the, quote, the docket for the FTC.They're going to have a meeting on September 25th.So if you want to comment about this, you can go out to regulations.gov this is actually FTC 2026, 1057 where you can make your comment.So if you feel strongly about it, and I think Juliet might feel strongly about it, then you should go out there and do that.Because the whole reason that the FTC exists is to protect the consumer.And if you don't say anything, this is just going to continue.If you strongly oppose it, then go make your voices loud.I think it's a great thing to do.

Juliet Chuang00:14:56

Yes, I'm actually going to start doing that.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:15:00

So Juliet is going to stake out the FTC website and she is going to become a thorn in their side.

Juliet Chuang00:15:07

I think all for consumer protection.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:15:10

You know, there's nothing wrong with being.But.But at the end of the day, go check it out.Open up that cognito window, call somebody you know and say, hey, can you look up the price on this and see what they get?Because then you might find, oh, this is a real thing.

Juliet Chuang00:15:24

Yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:15:24

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Juliet Chuang00:16:14

We are getting into today's side hustle.So we're talking about Rover.Has anybody in the comment section, have you guys ever used Rover?Or maybe as a customer or you've been working on Rover, that's what we're going to talk about.It's a side hustle that people constantly bring up because it sounds like one that's really fun and one that you can't lose.You like dogs, you're home.So this is essentially free money, right?Boarding dogs and pet sitting on Rover.So Ralph, let's talk about, let's kind of do a breakdown like for people who don't have dogs or maybe want to like, what is Rover?How does the platform really work?And then let's get into the money of it.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:16:53

See, I actually know somebody that used Rover several times.It's a great service.If you're going out of town and you've got one of those dogs that doesn't fare well at a kennel, doesn't do well on their own, basically there's two ways to do Rover.Either the person comes to your house a couple times a day and checks on your pet, maybe takes them for a walk, makes sure they get fed and all that sort of thing, or the other way is you actually take the pet to your home and you.And basically your house becomes the workplace.

Juliet Chuang00:17:23

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:17:24

But there's a couple of pitfalls here that we need to talk about.Number one thing, and I'm not picking on Rover because they're not the only ones that do this.They take 20% of whatever the generated income is from the top.

Juliet Chuang00:17:36

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:17:36

So that comes off the top.And then you have to understand you also have to pay tax on this.So we talk about who this works for and who it doesn't work for.So the typical boarding.Let's get into some real numbers because I did some research for today's show.2026 Rate surveys show that the typical boarding is, is between $40 and $75 a night.

Juliet Chuang00:17:58

A night.Okay.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:17:59

Yeah.So basically the way that it works at Rover is you're going to get 80% of that.

Juliet Chuang00:18:06

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:18:07

So if you get $50 a night right away, you're only getting $40 a night because Rover's going to keep 10 bucks of that.

Juliet Chuang00:18:15

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:18:16

But because I'm the tax accountant in the room, don't forget about self employment tax.You are self employed.You're not an employee of Rover, you're an independent contractor.

Juliet Chuang00:18:26

Is that the 1099?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:18:27

Correct.So for every, whether you get a 1099 or not, we've talked about that before, you have to report this income that rate is 15.3%.So if we start at $40 now, we're down to $34 because Uncle Sam takes self employment tax of 6.In addition to that, now you've got to pay your regular federal income tax.And we'll just use an assumption that you're in a 12% tax bracket.So that $50 a night that you saw when you saw the advertisements, you know, do this on Rover and you can make $50 a night.I just showed you the math.Now we're down to 30 nights.Excuse me, $30 a night.

Juliet Chuang00:19:07

Let me make sure I got that right.So let's say you get $50 a night on the top Rover, the platform takes 20%.So now you're at 50, $40.And then on top of that you have to do self employment tax and then your federal and state tax still with from that 40, right?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:19:22

Yeah, correct.And I didn't even factor in a state income tax.I'm just saying the per the federal tax and the self employment tax and that, that's put you down to $30.

Juliet Chuang00:19:30

Wow.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:19:31

So it's not that you're.Because a lot of people do the math and they say, oh, this is great for 10 nights I can watch this dog, I'm going to make 500 bucks.But that's not true.You're going to make, you're going to keep $300.But here's the part you also have to think about.What are the supplies you're going to need, what are the utility costs, what is the mileage going back and forth?

Juliet Chuang00:19:52

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:19:52

So the real answer in my perception is a little less than $30 for each night.

Juliet Chuang00:20:00

Do you know?Because I don't have a pet and I don't use.So I don't use Rover, obviously.But do you know if like the supplies being said, is that offered by the person who needs to have their do and their pets watch?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:20:13

So my wife and I have actually used this service.We have a German shepherd, her name is Piper.And Piper does not like to go home.She loves her home here on the farm.So she is not a dog that we can go board.So when we've taken overnight trips before when my, my youngest son wasn't able to do it because a lot of times Rover is my youngest son and after work he comes and he becomes Rover for us and you know, we throw him a couple bucks and he's happy.But what this, this is a great service.But so we use the service and we provided the food because if you know much about dogs.Dogs are consistent.They want to have the same food.So most of the time, I'm talking about supplies.If you're taking a dog to your home and you've got to get like, Wee Wee pads so they don't pee all over your carpet, or you've got to get dog toys or something like that to keep them occupied so they're not tearing up your.Your floors or eating through your doors.Because sometimes dogs will like to do that.But there's a couple of things that I think my big takeaways here.Before you get into this, write your nightly rate and get those numbers down to what we talked about.That's the first thing.The second thing you want to understand is if you're going to be doing it at your place, you've got to make sure that your landlord or your HOA or your homeowners are aware of this, and it's something you can do there.And a lot of people don't think about this.Understand whether that homeowner's insurance or your renter's insurance covers this, because here's the thing.

Juliet Chuang00:21:39

If they do, if they damage anything.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:21:41

Or if they bite somebody or if they cause injury, because what I have found is most homeowners policies specifically exclude boarding other people's animals for money.So it's not covered.So just think about this.Let's say that you're boarding this dog and your neighbor is waving at you.Hey, it's great day over here.And your dog becomes like Cujo.And this dog you're boarding jumps through the fence and bites your neighbor.Unfortunately, most insurance carriers aren't going to cover that.So that's a big deal, because for two reasons.Number one, they don't cover boarded animals, and most personal insurance policies don't cover business activity.So you want to get both of those answers before you dog this.Before you do this.I said before you dog this.I feel like I need to start barking here.You want to do this before you do it?Not after the first bite.Because once the first bite is done, you're in trouble.And the thing I know about dogs we're getting.My oldest son has a dog, Firefly.I think I mentioned this yesterday, and Fireflies actually come in for a weekend visit.Well, Firefly is very sensitive about food.So we need to separate these two dogs when they're being fed, because it will be like game on if you put other dog.Like, we actually had this happen.The last time that Firefly and Piper were together, they got in a Little bit of a tussle, as my grandmother would say.They was a tussling.So just understand that kind of happens.So understand what you're getting into.Understand what overnight really means.And you know, the whole point of this side hustle corner is to really go beyond the simple.Here's what Rover's telling me we can make.What are you actually going to keep?Because you've got to factor that in, like we talked about.Juliet said the 1099, you might not get one because you might not do $20,000 worth of Rover, but you still have to claim that income.A lot of cities, if you have a home occupation, you've got to have a permit or you've got to have a boarding license.Don't guess on that because again, you might be making 50 bucks or 30 bucks a night, and next thing you know, knock at the door, the city inspector's there, and you get fined more than you've ever made on Rover or you skip the insurance.That's a big deal.Understand if your HOA allows it.If you're renting space, does your landlord allow it?All these things are potential.I'm not saying Rover's not a good deal because it very well can be.It really can be.

Juliet Chuang00:24:10

Infor Seeker in the comments said, usually in Rover, the supplies are on the pet owner.That makes sense.That makes a lot of sense.So.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:24:17

And thank you for that comment.

Juliet Chuang00:24:18

Side hustler.If you were a side hustler, Ralph, would you do Rover?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:24:23

I think.And he put me on the spot there.But I love it because so I'm.I'm a pet person.So for me, yes.But for me, I would not do it in my own home because I already have a pet and I know the two of them probably wouldn't get along.So I think to answer this question, I've got to think about a couple things.Am I doing it at their home?So therefore the risk of any kind of exposure is limited.Second thing, if I'm only gonna be making about half of the night, does that really make sense?Because if you're going to have to spend eight hours doing something, is eight hours of your time worth $30?

Juliet Chuang00:25:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:25:02

That's the bigger question because then we're getting down to like two or $3 an hour.Now, if it's passive income and you're just gonna sit there and say, oh, cute little dog, go sit in the corner, maybe that's okay.

Juliet Chuang00:25:11

Yeah, yeah.So for me, I think I would also be a yes with a lot of caveats.I would not want to bring the dog into my space because I don't know, it's my space.I don't want a dog in there.But I'm very happy to go over and walk the dog or like house sit or something.And then the way that I see it is it is passive income.And if there's like a dog that's active and wants to go out and play, then it also gets me outdoors.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:25:36

Yeah.And that's why I see a lot of, I'll say, recently retired people.I've got some clients that are starting to do this and they love it because it's socialization.A lot of them aren't doing the overnight boarding.I, they're doing, well, I'll go check on your dog twice a day.And they really enjoy because it gives them something to do.They're pet people anyway.So actually this is one of those side hustles I'll give the check mark to that says this is one I kind of like.But understand what you're getting into.Understand the ramifications of insurance and your house and all that sort of thing because you want to be intentional and you want to be clear and equipped about what you're getting into.That's the whole point of the show.

Juliet Chuang00:26:12

Yes, exactly.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:26:14

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Juliet Chuang00:27:22

I know we're getting into the next section, but I just want to say Infoseeker came with another comment.Infoseeker said, I think the best way to pet sit is at the pet's home.It makes the pets more comfortable, which is super important, so you don't get them in the agitated state of mind, and you can set a distance to help determine travel.Yes.These are all really great things to point out as well.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:27:41

Yeah.Well said, and thank you for commenting.And before we jump into the next topic, I want to point everybody to a document that we've created in preparation for today.We put together a credit report document, and the easiest way to get it, if you go to becoming financiallyconfident.com credit, and you could do that right now, it's going to ask for your email address, it's going to send you a confirmation, and.And then you'll get a beautiful PDF document that walks you through all the things we're going to talk about today.So, again, that's becoming financiallyconfident.com credit.So download your guide today.But go ahead, Juliette.Let's get into today's topic.

Juliet Chuang00:28:16

Yeah.So at the top of the show, we said, we asked if everybody pulled their credit report.Hopefully y' all had some time to pull it.I just pulled mine.Today's document is the one document that everybody has but almost nobody has read.I am guilty of that.I know about the credit report.Never read it before.It's the report your score is built out of.I have a real one right in front of me with personal details blacked out, and we're going to read it to you.You don't need to be looking at anything else except for what is yours.And you actually don't need to write anything down at the end.Ralph is going to give you three things to do tonight.So, Ralph, let's start at the very top.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:28:56

Yeah.Before we even do that, I want to talk for a second about why people won't open it.So if you haven't even pulled your credit report, I'm going to encourage you.It may be ugly.I get that.I've been there.I've been the person with the credit score that's like, wow, that's a credit score.Didn't know it could get that low.But if you don't know, you're never going to fix it.You're never going to change it.And there could very well be things on your credit report that aren't correct.So that's.You got to get past that feeling.This is one of those tough love segments.But go to annualcreditreport.com or go to each of the credit bureaus and pull that.So we're going to make an assumption.You've done that.There are basically seven parts of every credit report, and I'm going to break those down piece by piece.The first thing is your personal information on your credit report.It's going to talk about who you are.It's going to have your information on there.It's going to have your addresses.It's going to have any.Yeah.Any names that you've used.So if you've changed names, if you've been married or divorced, all of those things are going to be.It's going to have a thing called aliases.And aliases look like this is a really interesting thing.So just picture this.Yeah.My name is Ralph Estepp Jr.It's actually Ralph Victor Estep Jr.But sometimes when I apply for credit, I might put Ralph Estep, or I might put Ralph V. Estep, or I might put Ralph v. Estep Jr. All of those are aliases.So when they're not aliases, like in a.In a nefarious way, but they're different ways that I've applied for credit.This is super important because look at this section of your credit report and make sure there aren't names in there that make no sense to you.One of the easiest things.

Juliet Chuang00:30:39

Yeah, I was just gonna say, like, even before.So I pulled my credit report from Experience experian, and it's 24 pages, and.But then even before we get to that personal, there's like an at a glance view that I see, and then.And then I get to the personal.So exactly what.What Ralph is saying.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:30:57

Yeah, Julia.And if you have questions while we're going through this, please shoot them out to me.I am very skilled at reading credit reports.I've been doing this for many years.And I want everybody to really lean into understanding what that is.But what I was getting to is if you see an alias on that and that name makes no sense to you, radar should go up because that means likelihood someone has tried to apply for credit in your name.So if you see a name that is completely unknown to you, let's just say Juliet.If Juliet sees Juliet Jones, and Juliet Jones was her maiden name or a different name that she's aware of, that's fine.But if on her credit, she sees Sally Smith.

Juliet Chuang00:31:37

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:31:37

I would be like, wait a minute.So Sally Smith may have tried to get credit in her name.So look at this section.Look at the Addresses as well, because you.This can be a tell as well.Make sure those addresses are addresses that make sense to you.

Juliet Chuang00:31:52

I have a question for you because you said you sometimes will go by Ralph V. Estep, right?Like, is the V part of legal.Like, aliases have to be legal?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:32:05

Yeah.Well, not necessarily, because I.Also, you're gonna.Here's something kind of funny.Like, sometimes when I sign up for something, I will use a fake name intentionally.And what's interesting is sometimes I will see those quote fake names pop up on my credit report because they do what's called a soft pool.It's a soft pool.

Juliet Chuang00:32:25

Oh, soft pool.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:32:26

Yeah.Which is a difference between a hard pull and a soft pool.So I don't wanna get into that discussion, but soft pools don't affect your credit score.Hard pools do.

Juliet Chuang00:32:32

Wait, wait, wait.So soft pull, okay.We don't have to get into the whole thing about soft pull and hard pull, but whenever you do something and it pulls your credit, is it.Are they supposed to tell you, oh, this is going to be a soft pull, or not?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:32:46

Yes, but let me explain the difference between the two.If I am a company, I can go out and contract with one of the credit reporting agencies and I could say, give me every single person who fits a particular set of parameters.They have a credit score of this.They live in this geographic region.They have this many open trade lines, this many accounts.That's what's called a soft pool.And the credit bureaus will sell that information to people.They're not.They're just giving you numbers.They're not giving you individual pieces.They're saying, here's the people that you could market to.That's what we're talking about.That's a soft pool that doesn't affect your credit score.A hard pull is you go to the car dealership, you get in front of the finance guy, and he says, okay, Juliet, I need you to fill out this credit application.You're going to sign something that says that you agree to having your credit pulled.That's a hard pull that is going to affect your credit score.

Juliet Chuang00:33:43

Got it.All right, let's.I think we can move on to the next section, which is personal statements.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:33:48

Yeah, so this one.This one always confuses people, but this is a place where you can actually add a personal narrative to your credit report.And a lot of people aren't aware of this.For example, let's say that you've been the victim of identity theft.You can actually put a statement on your credit report.I am aware that I was a victim of identity theft.And this account, this account, this account are not my accounts.I'm in the process of working through these now to get those off.

Juliet Chuang00:34:15

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:34:15

That's the kind of thing you can put on there.You can put credit freezes on there.You can put all of the fraud alerts on there.That's a great thing to use, and it's absolutely free.And it's basically a narrative for anybody that does a hard pull on your credit report.

Juliet Chuang00:34:32

How can.How can somebody update their personal statement?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:34:35

You go right to the credit bureau's website and there's a place to make all of these modifications.

Juliet Chuang00:34:41

Got it.Okay, so then, like, let's say you had somebody break in your house and you don't know if you were the victim of an identity theft.Is that something you think could go on a personal statement?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:34:52

Oh, absolutely.And I think that a credit report is a great way to determine if you've been the victim of identity theft for a couple reasons.Number one, if there's a crazy name on there that doesn't make sense to you, if there's an address that doesn't make sense to you, if there are, we'll get to this in a little bit.If there are inquiries, and that's a little bit farther down on the report.These are all things that can.That give us sort of a foreshadowing is there might be something on this.So this is one of those things.A credit report is a great way to pay attention to what's going on.And that's why I'm a huge believer in, at the very least, pulling your credit reports once a year, each bureau, and reading that thing from top to bottom, like you got.Like you're taking a test on it because there are.

Juliet Chuang00:35:35

Or reading a book.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:35:36

No, like reading a book.It's really important that you do that because you want to understand what's going on.And again, the three bureaus are Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion.Now, each of these reports might look a little different.Each of them have their own nuanced ways of doing it, but the general information is the same.But if you've got an address on there you've never lived at, that's a big deal.Pay attention to that because that means someone.Either someone's file is bleeding into yours, or somebody is trying to scam you or take advantage of your credit.

Juliet Chuang00:36:08

Let's move on to the next section, which is potentially negative items.I am happy to say the port that I'm looking at nothing there, I think, unless I scroll down and it like snuck on a different order.But walk us through this potentially negative.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:36:21

Items, and that's what you want to see.So in the potentially negative items, that's where it would be.Things like if you've ever been late on a payment, they'll put it in that.If you have a charge off.In other words, we talked about that on yesterday's show.If you haven't paid a loan, if you have medical collections, anything like that will be in that section.And the whole point of that is from two perspectives, from the consumer perspective.So you can see, oh, here's the things I gotta pay attention to, right?It's also great from the lender's perspective because when I would look at credit reports, I would look at the credit score and then I get right into the potentially negative things.Because if I'm busy during the day and I've got a ton of loans to go through, right.I'm going to go key in on those things first, right?So that I can say, oh, this person isn't going to work with what we're trying to accomplish.But it works for both the consumer and the lender.So that's why it's so important.Those potentially negative items, if you have any of those things, right, Pay attention to those things.Do some research on those things.And you may need to dispute some of those things if they're not yours.

Juliet Chuang00:37:26

I just want to clarify here because, like, let's say you have a mortgage for 30 years and you're like on year five, the remaining mortgage does not live there, right?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:37:37

No, it wouldn't be.No.So if you have.We're gonna get to that in a few minutes.When we talk about accounts in good standing, which is actually the next place we're going to go to.But this is a place where there's any public records, if you've ever had a bankruptcy, if you've ever had a judgment against you, meaning someone has gone to court and said, juliet didn't pay her bills.And now this court has said, nope, Juliet doesn't pay her bills.If you have a tax lien from the IRS or from the state, or all of these things are like, think about it, like the headline.This is the headline to your credit report.It starts off with who you are, where you live, and then it goes right into.Here's the headline warning.Yeah, Big, you know, danger Will Rogers.You know, pay attention.These are the things that are important.

Juliet Chuang00:38:18

Got it, Got it.Okay, so you mentioned accounts in good standing.Let's head there.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:38:22

But before you go there, let me mention one more thing.Couple more things.

Juliet Chuang00:38:25

Okay.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:38:25

If you have a bankruptcy, most negative information lasts on your credit report for 10 years.So if you've got a bankruptcy, get buckle up, it's going to be on your credit report from anywhere from between seven and 10 years because the lender wants to know about that.Generally, medical collections are removed like we talked about last week.Under $500 or under 12 months are not reported.

Juliet Chuang00:38:50

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:38:51

That's not a law.That's an individual credit report responsibility.But let's get into the accounts.So the next section is actually the actual what, what we would call trade lines.And what that basically means is that here are the accounts that the credit report shows that you're, that you're connected with trade lines.

Juliet Chuang00:39:12

Like is it the whole point, like trade, like you're going to trade?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:39:15

Well, no, not exactly.What I mean by that is a separate account.So if you had a mortgage, if you had a mortgage, you would see the mortgage company's name, you would see the original acquisition cost of whatever you originally borrowed.You'd see a number of the last 24 payments to see if you've been making those on time.It'll show the current amount due, it'll show the monthly payment, it'll show if you've ever been past due on it.Those are the things.Go ahead.

Juliet Chuang00:39:42

So I see on my report like the graph that you mentioned, it's essentially like a table and on the left hand side it's all the years and then on the top row it's the months of the year.And then I just see a lot of check marks and dashes.Yeah, so good.Dashes.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:40:00

I don't, I'm like dashes just means you might not have a payment due that month.So let's say you have a credit, you have a credit card reporting on that trade line.

Juliet Chuang00:40:07

Yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:40:08

If you didn't have a balance that month, it could very well be a dash.If you had a check mark, that means you paid it on time.As a lender, I'm looking at saying, does Juliet pay her bill on time?

Juliet Chuang00:40:20

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:40:20

So each trade line is going to give you the name on the account, it's going to give you the address on the account, it's going to give you the phone number, it's going to give you the account number, it's going to tell you.

Juliet Chuang00:40:28

I'm surprised.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:40:29

Yeah.See, I'm telling you this is a wealth of information.It's going to give you what type of card it is.It's going to give you the recent balance, it's going to tell you the absolute credit limit.It's going to tell you the highest balance you've ever had.If you're past due, it's going to tell you how much you're past due.These are great things.It also mentions one thing.A lot of people don't think about whether anybody else is a co signer or aligned with this account.

Juliet Chuang00:40:54

So let's say, for example, not beneficiary, but like.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:40:56

No, not a beneficiary.

Juliet Chuang00:40:59

Joint account, Right?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:41:00

Correct, a joint account.So let's just say you went through a divorce.Look at your credit report and see are there items on loans, credit cards that are still showing as joint because you may not have a personal connection to that person anymore, but they're still connected to your credit report.So pay attention to that.This is the most important part of the credit report.You need to look and make sure that every single account makes sense.

Juliet Chuang00:41:27

Yeah.And this part, I, it takes the bulk of my 24 page credit report, which.Does that sound right to you?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:41:36

Absolutely.And it should, because.And this will report every piece of credit you've ever had.So even if you have paid something off, let's just say you used to have a car loan and that's paid off.You should find that in the history.Let's say that you had a mortgage and you sold that house and that mortgage was paid off.If you put a credit card, it would be on there.This is a history.It's kind of like here is.You know, you're going to sound funny when I say this.It's kind of like Juliet's rap sheet.So if you ever get arrested, they're going to pull your rap sheet.Well, a credit report is kind of the same idea.They're pulling your rap sheet and they're seeing what things are on your credit report.The reason that you want to read through each and every one of these things is if something is wrong, this is the time to dispute it.Most credit reports, if you're looking at them online, they'll have a button over there next to it says dispute.You can literally press the button and then a timeline starts.30 Days or 45 days if it's the annual report, they have to update that information.So pay attention to each one of these.If you have a late payment, you're like, there's no way I was late.If it says that you're overbalanced any of those things?Dispute, dispute, dispute.

Juliet Chuang00:42:53

Yeah.Let's move on to the next section because I think we still have a few more sections in this credit report.Let's go to credit inquiries, and this.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:43:01

Is a big one.This is another one where you want to look for fraud.A credit inquiry is one of those things we talked about.Did anybody go out there and apply for credit with your information?Either with your Social Security number, with your name, with some kind of duration of your address or something like that?This is also an area that will affect your credit score.And let me explain to you why.If I'm a lender and I see that you are out there applying for credit everywhere, I'm beginning to get concerned.If you're young and you're just getting started, I'm going to expect more inquiries.If you're going out car shopping, I might expect more inquiries.But if I look at your credit report and you've got 100 inquiries in the last 30 days, I'm wondering what's going on.Are you struggling financially?Are you looking to find as much credit as you want because you're going to pop bankruptcy in three months?These are all the things we're looking at.But pay attention to those credit inquiries.If there's one on there that doesn't ring a bell to you, if it doesn't make sense to you, find out who that is.Most of the time they'll list an 800 number, call them, pick up the phone, say, did someone apply for credit in my name?Get the specifics on that.Because this could be a, hey, there is potential fraud.This is the number one thing.And that's why when I talked about it last week, I use a product from Norton called Lifelock.Lifelock basically alerts me when anything affects my credit.So if there's an inquiry, Lifelock is going to send me a message, they're going to call me, they're going to do an instant thing on my phone and says, hey, Ralph, someone is applying for credit in your name.That's why these credit inquiries are so important.

Juliet Chuang00:44:44

Awesome.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:44:45

So do you see any inquiries on yours?

Juliet Chuang00:44:48

Thankfully, no, because I did not inquire anywhere.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:44:50

So you haven't been out fishing for credit lately?

Juliet Chuang00:44:53

Yeah.Yep.I mean, physically I haven't.I don't know.I mean, obviously nobody's been trying to do anything in my name, which is good.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:45:00

Well, this is a great thing.So there's no nefarious people out there looking to steal.I'll tell you a funny story, Julie.There was One point when my credit was really bad because I made really bad decisions and I used to chuckle.I was like, I would love somebody to steal my identity because they would try to apply for something.They'd be like, what?I can't believe your credit score is that low.It's kind of like my little digging.I'm like, you want to come get me?Good luck with that because my credit score is in the toilet.So you're not getting it anywhere anyway.That's just a little funny.

Juliet Chuang00:45:28

Let's go to the next section or like the last two sections which are pretty easy to go through, I think.Important messages and your rights.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:45:35

Yeah, these are the places where the credit bureau is telling you how they came to your credit score.They're telling you about how they're handling information on your credit report.They're telling you, just skim over this.This is not a big deal.A lot of this is what we call boilerplate legal ease.The things that they're telling you that you have to know because hey, you have to know them.But it's not necessarily anything actionable.So this is just an area.And then the final thing is your rights.They give you what's called a summary of the fair.And I'm looking to my side because I have a copy of my credit report over here popped up too.And they give you what's called a summary of the Fair Credit Reporting Act.That's the federal law that governs all of this.So understand all the things we talked about is governed by federal law.So you can go out there and Google search the Fair Credit Reporting act and understand what your rights are.And you should do that.You should know what your rights are.Because so many decisions are made based on your credit.And the obvious ones are you go get a loan, you go get a credit card.But what a lot of people don't know is they use this for employment screening, they use this for insurance pricing.Your credit and a specific, specifically your credit score.And I want to take a couple minutes to talk about credit score if we have time.But your credit is what's building that credit score.That's why it is super important to know what you're looking at.Download that thing again.Becoming financiallyconfident.com credit.And we actually put together, I think it's 16 pages.And what we put together, it talks about what your report should look like.We talk about the four things that changed on there recently.And then we give you actually a 16 point checklist that you can use with Your own credit report.And you can go line by line and say, okay, Ralph said, and Juliet said to look at this.And then we give you some more spreadsheets that you can fill in on, calculations that you can do by hand.This is a great document.And, you know, it's a little bit cumbersome.I'm not going to lie to you.But it's a way to get on the same page and understand what your credit is telling you.Because all of this sums up this credit report helps build a credit score.That credit score is generally found at the top of your credit report.Juliet, the one that you got in front of you.Do you see a credit score on there?

Juliet Chuang00:47:45

I do, Yep.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:47:48

So that credit score is a range, kind of like when you were in school.Now, most people would say to you, well, I have a credit score over 800.If your credit score is anything above about 775, you're considered to be in the best.You're the best.Don't get hung up on.My score needs to be 800 or my score needs to be 800 5.It's all ranges.If you go in and get a car loan, for example, there's.Let me give you a simple example.So all lenders have what they call tiers.So like, for example, when I went to get my Toyota truck loan, I said, go ahead and pull my credit.They said, oh, well, you're in the A tier.You're in the top tier.I'm like, well, that's good.I've worked hard to get to that point.Your credit, your interest rate in a lot of cases is based on the tier that they put you in.

Juliet Chuang00:48:37

Right.How many tiers are there?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:48:38

Well, it depends.Every lender has different tiers.Generally.When I was working into credit unions, we used to have A through basically A through F, A paper that's like when you were in school, you're getting A's B paper pretty good.But a couple bunch bumps in a root C paper.We're like, yeah, yeah, if.Okay, D and F paper.We skipped the E. I don't know why we skipped the E. But it's kind of like back when we were in school.Those are the people that I'm looking more closely at.Those are the people like, yeah, this person might have charge off, this person might have bankruptcy.This person might have open judgments.These are the people that the radar goes up.Yeah, but they're ranges, so don't get hung up on.Well, my credit score is 793 and I'm just so disappointed because it's not 800.Don't sweat that.

Juliet Chuang00:49:23

Just improve it.And I will say our producer Abby put it into the poll, so please do answer that it is if you pull your credit report tonight, what are you most scared you'd find?Option A an account that you don't recognize to an old balance.I thought I was, I thought was close closed and 3 honestly, nothing.I check it out a lot and then enforce seeker in the comment said please steal my debt.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:49:49

This is a I, I absolutely love them.I got a play this for Infoseeker.Well how about that Debbie, because I I infoser I I'm right there with you.I I this is awesome because this but but and here's what I want you to take away from this whole discussion.

Juliet Chuang00:50:04

Yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:50:05

It's a starting point.

Juliet Chuang00:50:06

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:50:07

Know what you're working with.

Juliet Chuang00:50:08

Yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:50:09

You can improve all of these things.It's not going to happen overnight.But if you continue with the blinders on, like you can't see what's going on, it's never going to improve.It's never going to change.The thing that happened to me was that when I finally pulled my credit and I read it line by line and think about this, this is what I did for a living.I worked in this and I didn't want to look at my own credit.But when I finally pulled that credit report and I went through it line by line and said here are things that I can fix.I can get those credit card balances low so that my utilization isn't so high.I can make sure I sign up for automatic payments so I don't see the, the missed payments.I can go and clean up any collection items.I can go and work on those things.But if you don't have the knowledge, if you haven't looked at these things, they're just going to continue to dog you and you're never going to get anywhere with this.

Juliet Chuang00:51:00

One thing you talked about during this credit report is some you may find something that you have to file a report on.Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:51:06

Can you give file a dispute.

Juliet Chuang00:51:08

Oh, sorry.File a dispute.Can you give let people know like kind of what that process entails?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:51:15

Sure.What you're basically saying when you dispute an item on your credit report, you're saying that it's a negative item and you disagree with that.So what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to say to them, first of all, here's the, here's a simple answer.If you're Looking at it online and there's a little dispute button, click the dispute button and it'll walk you through what they're going to ask you.They're going to say to you, is this not your debt?Is the reporting information incorrect?Is the amount of credit outstanding wrong?All of those questions.Then the lender has 30 days or up to 45 days to do something about it.

Juliet Chuang00:51:49

Right?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:51:50

Here's the best part.If the lender doesn't respond, that can come off your credit report.And sometimes lenders have gone out of business, they've changed names, they don't care anymore.So if you've got some potentially negative things on your credit, one of the ways you can do it is to dispute it.Now if it's really yours and you're like, you know what?I wasn't honoring my credit.Don't just go out there to dispute it.To dispute it.That's not a good plan.

Juliet Chuang00:52:14

Yeah.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:52:15

But anyway, to dispute it, you got to have your information.So go and look at everything and say, what do I disagree about this?You know, the common disputes are, are medical collection items, for example, like you paid that and it was on your report twice or three times because it was given to other, other agencies.Maybe at some point you were a co signer on a loan, but you went through the bank and you're no longer co signer on a loan.Like you went through a divorce or something like that.

Juliet Chuang00:52:41

So you have to get that off of your credit report.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:52:43

Correct.And yeah, correct.They can.And sometimes maybe there's something that should be on your credit report, but it's not on your credit card.We talked about this a little earlier.I said trade lines.I used to see this a lot with people just getting started.I generally wouldn't give a loan to anybody unless they had at least four trade lines.In other words, they had four accounts like a credit card.Because I don't know if they're going to pay their bills or not.If I don't have a history.Unfortunately, it's kind of discriminatory because if you're just getting started.

Juliet Chuang00:53:12

Right.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:53:13

You know, but, but, but, but maybe I'll get started with you by getting that credit card for a $500 limit.That builds a trade line.And then once you get that one, then maybe you go get a car loan and then you.So the whole point is basically the scoring models only work if you've got more than four trade lines.

Juliet Chuang00:53:30

Got it.That makes a lot of sense.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:53:31

Yeah.And the other thing we put in this worksheet is a problem log and dispute tracker.So we can help you get through all of the pieces of that.We talk about how to fix something that's wrong.We give you the addresses, the email addresses, the phone numbers for Equifax, excuse me, Experian and TransUnion.And we also talk about there with the Fair Debt Credit act, what happens if the credit bureau won't do anything.You do have some other things that you can do.

Juliet Chuang00:53:53

Awesome, Amazing.So I would say like for everybody, it's really to make sure you have read your credit report.Take a look at the resource we have put together because that will help guide you as you're, you know, maybe seeing your credit report for the first time.And there's a lot of different activities exactly like what Ralph said that you can use.If you do need to log a problem and it just dispute, then we have all these little tools.So you have it in a nice little notebook.Anything else you want to add here, Ralph?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:54:21

Not at all.Let's get on to our money move so we can check up and see where everybody is this week.

Juliet Chuang00:54:26

Sounds good.I did not.I did not.I did not set up my automatic payment yesterday.I got distracted.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:54:37

But so just to remind everybody we talked about this week, we're going to open up a separate high Yield savings account and we're going to set up one automatic transfer time to when your money actually comes into your account.So that's your homework for this week.And like Juliet said, she's not quite there yet, but I got a feeling that she's going to get there.But let me ask you this question, Juliet.What was the friction that you hit?

Juliet Chuang00:54:59

I think I just prioritized a lot of other tasks above this one, I will say, which was surprising.It happened after the show.After yesterday's show.I was like, how come I feel so, I don't know, like nervous in a sense, because I know I have the money.Like, I know I'm gonna put.I'm gonna do the automatic of $5 each week.That's what I plan to do for now.Oh, by the way, I do have another high Yield savings account.I just wanna be a part of this exercise as well.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:55:29

Awesome.

Juliet Chuang00:55:29

That's why.And so, but, but the feeling for me is just like, oh, this is just really putting personal finance front and center as we do these money moves.And so I feel like I felt uncomfortable because it was actually homework and people were doing it together.I'm like, oh, why?Why?If you let me be, I could Just do it on my own time, meaning I could procrastinate on it as long as I wanted to.So that's just like a feeling that I experienced yesterday.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:55:57

I get it.And what we're really asking you to do every week with these is be intentional.

Juliet Chuang00:56:02

Right?

Ralph Estep Jr.00:56:02

That's what really asking.Like you said, you said I'm putting it at the forefront.And that's the whole goal.If you want to get to a place of becoming financially confident.If you want to be financial confident, you have to put these things in the front.You have to be intentional with these things.

Juliet Chuang00:56:16

Yes, exactly.So we'll check in tomorrow.If you guys have done it, you know, let us know in the comments.But if not, there's two more days before the end of the week and hopefully we can every.Everybody can set it up.Just set up anything between $5, $10, any amount of what our request is or our homework is just to tie it to whenever you get paid.Just set amount and amount aside.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:56:41

Absolutely.And while you're talking about tomorrow, let's talk about what's going to be on the show tomorrow because we've got a great show planned for you tomorrow.Tomorrow we're going to talk about time shares.Timeshares is like that cousin that nobody wants to talk about.A lot of us have been impacted by this.Juliet's got a story.I've got a story.You're not going to believe that.My in laws did and I've seen clients try to unwind these things and we're going to break that all down.And the other thing, Juliet is going to put me on the spot tomorrow.And I got to be honest with you, you were talking about being a little anxious.I'm a little anxious tomorrow as well.She's going to ask the accountant.And listen, friends, I've got no idea what she's going to ask me, so make sure you join us tomorrow.But she's going to break it down and she's going to try to stump me.I think that's what she's really going to do.She's going to try to find that obscure question that let's see what Ralph says.So make sure you join us tomorrow every day live at 11:30am at becomingfinanciallyconfident.com.

Juliet Chuang00:57:36

Yes.And that is it for today's episode of becoming financially confident.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:57:41

And I think we had a great day today.

Juliet Chuang00:57:43

I'm Ralph Estepp Jr. And I'm Juliet.Don't forget to send us things.Send us any questions.Ecomingfinanciallyconfident.com and we will see you guys tomorrow.

Ralph Estep Jr.00:57:53

And remember, our whole goal at becoming financially confident is breaking free from money.Shame.One conversation at a time.So thank you so much for joining us.Don't forget, download our free credit thing@becomingfinanciallyconfident.com credit.And before I leave, share the show with somebody else.Maybe you've got a friend who doesn't understand how to read their credit.Share the show with them.That free resource is for anybody that wants it.And everybody have a great day today.

Juliet Chuang00:58:25

Sam.